Interview Broadcast 28 May 2009
Lance Guma: Hello Zimbabwe and welcome to another edition of Behind the Headlines. On the 15th April 2000 two MDC activists, Tichaona Chiminya and Talent Mabika, were brutally murdered by CIO operative Joseph Mwale. On the day Mwale threw a petrol bomb into their car, burning them to death. One of the survivors of the attack, Sanderson Makombe, is the guest on Behind the Headlines and tells us what happened. Mr. Makombe thank you for joining us.
Sanderson Makombe: Thank you Lance
Lance: Now on this fateful day Mr. Makombe, like I’ve said you were one of the survivors. Can you just maybe for our listeners tell us what actually happened on this day?
Makombe: Oh in short you remember it was towards the 2000 parliamentary elections that were supposed to be held in April but were then moved to May. Ah..that time me and Chiminya had been instructed by the President of the MDC then Morgan Tsvangirai who was going to be the candidate for the MDC in the Buhera North constituency. He was supposed to address some rallies over the Easter period. Then he instructed me and Chiminya to go and do the preliminary work and the planning of the rallies, the transport and stuff. So what we did was to convene a meeting for all the structures that we had in Buhera North at Paradise Motel which is just a mile away from Buhera…….(inaudible).
The meeting lasted into the late afternoon probably around 4 or 5pm. Then after the meeting we were supposed to take some of the delegates back to their respective areas since they didn’t have their own transport. Chiminya then took the occasion then to take the people back to their respective areas. So he left me at the motel with one of the senior members of the MDC who was present Mr. Chiremba. On his way up north towards the Buhera District Offices, that’s were his first struggle or encounter with Zanu PF happened. Apparently what happened is that it took him so long to come back that we got so worried.
So me and Chiremba got into Chiremba’s car and we drove North looking for him. When we met him was shocked and very agitated and you know something really had happened. We asked him what had happened and he told us that a Zanu PF twin cab had followed him to one of the shopping centers when he was dropping the delegates and there was a scuffle between him and the members of Zanu PF who were in the Zanu PF twin cab. Apparently he was helped out because members of the public who were present came to support him, so he drove back.
So we all drove back the two vehicles to Paradise Motel then we decided that it was high time that we had to disperse. So we had to take the other delegates that were remaining, those who were nearer to Murambinda growth point itself. So we drove to the centre there with the two vehicles, probably we had twenty or so delegates in the two vehicles. It was really getting dark and when we got to the growth point we parked our cars and started singing, you know, just campaigning for the MDC and so forth and so forth. We attracted quite a big crowd. We were there for probably one and a half hours and when we were still there at the shopping center we received a report that one of our members had been assaulted by Zanu PF members and had been taken to Murambinda Hospital.
So we thought it prudent to go and check on his condition before we retreated back to our base. So we drove the two vehicles to the hospital but by the time we got there the visiting hours had already gone and so we were not allowed in. After negotiating with them, Chiminya was allowed in to go and check on his condition. When he came back you know he was very angry, agitated as well and he was holding a blood soaked MDC T-shirt which the guy had been wearing and he told us that guy was really in a bad state. Then apparently when we were there you know Talent Mabika informed us that she knew the guy who had been assaulted and they were related somehow.
So we decided to go make and lodge a complaint with the police. We drove the two vehicles to Murambinda Police Station where the Member in Charge was there and apparently I don’t know what happened a lot of the police officers had been mobilized and were just milling around the police station with cars and tear gases and stuff. So we made a complaint and asked what he knew. Apparently he knew such a thing had happened and we wanted to know what action was going to be taken and stuff. We were there at the police station for about 30 to 40 minutes then we decided that it was right for us to go back to our base. Apparently me and Chiminya were supposed to travel down to Muzokomba Growth Point which is in Buhera South. So the last aspect of it was that we were supposed to drop the remaining members whom we had before we drove to Muzokomba.
It was then when we drove out of the police station towards the Chivhu road going North in Buhera District when we were traveling along that road we noticed then a Zanu PF truck coming from one of the side ways. It was a white twin cab written Zanu PF Manicaland Province on its doors. Then they drove in front of us and they also turned left when we turned left and they were ahead of us for a couple of minutes. So we never thought there was anything going to happen you know.
After traveling along the tarred road for just a few miles they suddenly stopped in front of us, you know sort of blocking our way. Before we knew anything they had all jumped out of the vehicle and they were actually assaulting us, breaking the windows, the windscreen. So in front of the vehicle was Chiminya who was driving then in the middle was Talent Mabika and I was on the passenger seat, you know it was a pick up truck. So its only the pair of us who were left there cause all the guys who were in the truck had jumped and ran for their lives. So in the mayhem that was happening there I don’t know how I summoned the courage to go out through the window which had been broken, the side door window, you know. I just fought their guys who were there. Apparently they were not so much interested in me because it was just a short scuffle and they left me and I ran off into the bush.
Unfortunately my other two colleagues were not lucky enough to escape because I think Chiminya was their primary target, you know and when I was in the bush I could see them destroying the vehicle. Then we heard them calling for petrol bombs. Within a few minutes the whole vehicle was in flames. They switched on the lights of their truck, the Zanu PF guys and they got into the truck and then drove down to Dorowa Growth Point. That minute I came out of the bush, then we ran to try and rescue our guys but then we could see them, they had actually opened the vehicle and they were running across the fields burning like balls of flame, you know. So when we got there Chiminya was already dead but Talent was still speaking. The only other person whom I still remember who was still there was the late Mr. Hwata and another boy called Richard Chikwinya.
Lance: From where you were Mr. Makombe how did you get help, what happened from there?
Makombe: We never got any help from anyone. Apparently the police vehicle was just parked a few metres down the road. Actually they witnessed everything that was happening. So when we got to the two bodies, I remember me, Chikwinya, Ricky, Hwata and Mr. Chiremba, it was just the four of us, you know and the Santana police vehicle came down to where the bodies were and they instructed us to put the bodies in the back of the truck and take the bodies to the hospital.
So the task was for us to lift our colleagues, you know, with our own bear hands, they were still burning, you know. Talent was still screaming, she was not dead yet, she had been badly burnt. Her whole body was black with smoke and soot, you know all that stuff. And you know their skins were peeling from their bodies and stuff but you know we just had to do it. So it was basically the four of us who lifted the bodies and just dumped them in the back of the police vehicle, who then took them to the hospital.
Lance: Why do you think Mwale and these other Zanu PF thugs, targeted your group. Was there a special reason for them targeting you?
Makombe: Well from a political view we knew that they really wanted Morgan Tsvangirai to lose the Buhera North constituency because he was standing there as a parliamentary candidate. So they had specific instructions to make sure that he does not win in that area. Besides me and Chiminya had done great work before in Makoni West where we had been camped for 2 months and they knew how good we were at organizing rallies and mobilizing people. So they had specific instructions to stop us doing the same things in Buhera North.
Lance: There have been several court orders for Mwale to face justice, several prosecutors have actually instructed the police to arrest him but he remains employed by the CIO, in fact he was promoted some say and drives a top luxury vehicle. How do you feel about this?
Makombe: Well its really a tragedy Lance that at this point in time almost 9 years after that incident that, that person who committed such murder and had been subpoenaed by the courts will never bother to attend the court, its basically contempt of court. Secondly he is still employed by the same government and is paid by us tax payers and yet he is a criminal. What makes it worse actually now is that there is an inclusive government that includes us members of the MDC. We are now part of that government, so we are actually employing him to do the work that he is doing now yet he is someone who supposed to be standing before the courts and being tried for the crimes that he has committed.
Lance: You talk about the establishment of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission in one article that you wrote marking the 9th anniversary of this particular incident. What’s your argument there?
Makombe: Well my argument Lance was that Zimbabwe at this juncture has got an opportunity to resolve the issues that have happened in the last decade or so. But my premise was that to just call for forgiveness and reconciliation without bringing those who are known to have committed such serious crimes that are actually prohibited by international law is not good enough. What we need is a two way process were lesser crimes could go through reconciliation and forgiveness where the higher crimes, those that have a higher culpability should be tried through the courts, through the traditional justice system.
So one of the issues that I was talking about is people who committed such serious human rights violations, like arson, like murder, you know like sexual offenses, rape, you know. Those people, international law requires that those people be punished through the traditional court system. So that was the premises of the article that I wrote. I would very much love to see Mwale, not only Mwale, but all other people who have been involved in such atrocious human rights violations standing before the courts and being brought to justice.
Lance: And just quickly Mr. Makombe are these issues that you have tried to lobby through to the MDC?
Makombe: Well I do know that the article was read by a lot of people in the MDC through the feedback that they sent to my e-mail. Organizations also in Zimbabwe have contacted me to see if I could help with formulating policies on how we can deal with the past. So whether the party is prepared to go and take a step further, I don’t know. But as a person that’s what I feel. I feel that its one of the founding principles of the MDC as a party when we congregated in 1999 in forming the party one of the four issues was the return to the rule of law and I don’t see how these crimes that were perpetrated on the civic society and ordinary members of opposition parties can be excluded from that ambit? So it still remains a core value of the MDC and I would want to see the party standing firm on those core principles.
Lance: That was Sanderson Makombe one of the survivors of the attack by CIO operative Joseph Mwale. Mr. Makombe thank you so much for your time.
Makombe: Thank you Lance, you are welcome.
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