Minister fired for urging Mugabe to name successor… pays price for being “too honest”

By Fungi Kwaramba

Former War Veterans minister Tshinga Dube — who was sacked from Cabinet earlier this week — says although he harbours no hard feelings against President Robert Mugabe, he paid the price for being “too honest” and for backing calls for the nonagenarian to name a successor.

Colonel (Retired) Tshinga Dube
War Veterans Minister Retired Colonel Tshinga Dube

Dube lost his cushy job together with three other ministers — Prisca Mupfumira, Abednico Ncube and Farber Chidarikire — in a reshuffle which has drawn wide criticism from many Zimbabweans who say it was all about consolidating Mugabe’s power instead of improving the lives of long-suffering citizens.

The amiable former freedom fighter, who is regarded by many people as one of the few decent local politicians, is believed to have lost his job on account of lingering perceptions that he was an ally of embattled Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa who is currently facing a savage onslaught from his rivals in Zanu PF who do not want him to succeed Mugabe.

“I am not sick, neither am I in shock following my removal. It’s life and I am carrying on with my other responsibilities.

“I am not sure why I was sacked … but I feel I was just expressing an opinion (on succession) and people should not suffer for expressing their opinions.

“At the end of the day what people should realise is that our problems are caused by the dire state of the economy, and it is unfortunate that people then start finding scapegoats,” Dube told the Daily News in an exclusive interview yesterday.

Among other claims, he was also said to be too sympathetic to war veterans led by his ministerial predecessor Christopher Mutsvangwa — who was also fired from the government by Mugabe after his executive issued a damning communiqué against the nonagenarian.

The ex-combatants have publicly put their weight behind Mnangagwa’s mooted presidential aspirations, even warning that if the VP does not succeed Mugabe, there could be bloodshed in the country.

But Dube said yesterday that he was neither a Mnangagwa ally nor a member of Team Lacoste — the Zanu PF faction backing the VP.

“The problem with these allegations is that I do not even know what Lacoste is. Nobody ever talked to me and said join Lacoste … It’s all the same with the days of (former vice president Joice) Mujuru.

“Indeed, I was never part of the Gamatox (Mujuru) faction. I never even had three minutes talking to Mujuru, but still there were people who said if you are not with us then you belong to that faction.

“My relationship with Mnangagwa was very cordial, just as was the case with other superiors … there was never anything special between us,” he added.

Although Dube survived the ruling party purges which claimed the scalp of Mujuru and other former Zanu PF leading lights — on charges of plotting a coup against Mugabe — he was still dropped from the former liberation movement’s influential politburo, and only received a new lease on life after Mutsvangwa’s expulsion.

Dube, a liberation war icon who fought on the Zapu side during the struggle for Zimbabwe’s independence, set the cat among the pigeons in June when he publicly backed calls for Mugabe to name a successor.

Speaking to journalists in Bulawayo then, Dube said while former liberation war fighters were happy with Mugabe’s leadership, and would want him to win next year’s elections, they could not pretend as if there could never be a future without him.

“Sometimes people don’t understand them (war veterans). For instance, when they say they are now looking at the future leadership, some people think they mean to say they are being disloyal to our president. No, not at all.

“We respect our president. He has done so much for this country. He has brought about land to the people who never had land. He has brought education to our nation, but they are talking about the future.

“We are saying although we are very happy with our president and we want him to win the next election, but eventually he will decide to retire. We don’t know when, but when that time comes … that’s what the war veterans are saying,” Dube said.
“There is nothing wrong with aspiring to be a president if you want to be, but it’s people who choose you. You can’t choose yourself.

“There is nothing wrong with talking about succession. Succession is not a crime to talk about. This happens in every country.

“All the war veterans are saying is he (Mugabe) must groom the next leader … whatever happens, whether he retires or anything happens to him, there is somebody we know,” Dube said in an interview which led to Mugabe having a word with him after the Cabinet meeting of June 27.

“Otherwise it becomes very difficult for investors to put their money when they don’t know whether there is going to be another (Jean-Bédel) Bokassa (the former Central African Republic president) or Idi Amin (former Ugandan president) coming into Zimbabwe.

“They want to know who is coming, who is the next person, so that when they (investors) put their money they know it’s safe,” he added.

Dube was subsequently forced to convene a hastily-arranged news conference where he told journalists that Mugabe had “schooled” him on the process of choosing his successor.
“He came to me after Cabinet. His Excellency talked to me. He just reminded me that, look, I am only mandated by the constitution to choose my deputies.

“He said the issue of choosing a successor lies with the congress. He has given me the directive and, as my commander-in-chief, I listened. He came in a fatherly manner, as a leader and as a teacher,” said Dube in his damage-control exercise.

Mugabe has consistently refused to name a successor, arguing that it is Zanu PF that must decide through a congress when the time comes.

Zanu PF is currently divided in the middle, with a camp opposed to Mnangagwa succeeding Mugabe — the G40 faction — involved in a life-and-death tussle with Team Lacoste.

Of late, the name of reclusive Defence minister Sydney Sekeramayi, has also been thrown into the hat, although the veteran politician who has served in Mugabe’s Cabinet since independence in 1980 has refused to be drawn into the succession debate.

The party’s infighting took an ominous turn in August when Mnangagwa fell sick during an interface rally in Gwanda, which his backers said was a poison attack by his G40 rivals.

Mnangagwa was later airlifted to South Africa where he had emergency surgery. 

Mnangagwa later issued a statement denying that his illness was caused by ice cream from the First Family’s Gushungo Dairies, although he has consistently suggested that he was poisoned.

Recently, Mnangagwa again suggested to hordes of people who converged at Mupandawana Growth Point in Gutu, for the late Masvingo Provincial Affairs minister Shuvai Mahofa’s memorial service, that he was poisoned in the same way Mahofa was in 2015.

“I came here to tell you that what happened to Mai Mahofa in Victoria Falls is the same thing which happened to me,” he said.

Mahofa, one of Mnangagwa’s fiercest allies left the Zanu PF conference in Victoria Falls in 2015 wheelchair-bound, amid suspicions that she had been poisoned by party rivals.

She later spent two months recuperating in a South African hospital, before she resurfaced in March 2016.

Days after Mnangagwa’s address in Masvingo, his colleague Vice President Phelekezela Mphoko, issued a scathing statement in which he attacked him for allegedly trying to divide the country and to undermine Mugabe.

On Monday, Mugabe fired and demoted several ministers perceived to be sympathetic to Mnangagwa, in a reshuffle which analysts said was motivated by the desire to contain the Midlands godfather’s control and influence of key government ministries. Daily News

  • Sorry col Dube

  • he must just shut up , they talk once thrown out of the ship.

    • Yes and feel the pain yekumeso iyo

    • What do you mean by that? He said Mugabe must go while he was still a minister and not after he was fired. This is one guy who had the balls to speak out and refused to fire the Mutwanga led war veterans body.

    • True, Tshinga wasn’t a coward. Man of principle!

    • i liked this guy.he never kept quet about bad things that were done by Mugabe.

  • Anotyisa akafanana natsvangirai kkkkkkkkk

  • Ohhh shame!! Colonel vakamiswa basa???

  • Used

    • I would rather say he refused to be used. Thats why he was fired because he wasnt a yes man. I salute Tshinga.

  • Muchanzwa akugwauta bt patinotaura vanenge vachiona setinopenga

  • System akaimba akati kushata ndakashata hangu but aisataura munhu uyu woti, wozonzwa vanhu vekuchechi wachiti munhu akasikwa nemufananidzo wamwari woti mwari akadai

    • Kkkkkk

    • Aaaaah kkkkkk

    • Munhu wese akasikwa nemufananidzo vamwari,chaka kosha rudo runobva pamwoyo vemunhu not appearance

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    • zvimwe zvacho ziva nemoyo kwete kuzvitsvagira mawitness paFB. isu hatione kushata kwate

    • Chenjera va chinamasa. Thats his ministry 😂😂😂😂

    • Anodyiwa nyama here nhai munhu munhu akomana

  • uyu haashaye basa, muisei kumhuka uko..😂😂

  • Things are getting ‘ugly’ for Tshinga Dube

    • Lol! literally speaking.

    • Feck I’m dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Lol that’s a good one

    • Zvinhu zvakaoma voti wakashata apa zvinhu zvokuipira futi better isu takaipa tisina mari hedu

    • I don’t have any respect for any person who goes around describing other people as “ugly”.That actually shows and concludes the type of person you are…bad,proud character…you wont go very far with women bro.. women hate such an attitude.

    • Who is ugly,,,, pfutseki duzvi remunhu.

    • pwaaaaaaaaaka

    • Sarcasm @its best my #COTW 😂😂😂😂

    • Gandanga re4th chimurenga

      You may be surprised that “things” may actually be getting better and lighter for him now that he no longer has forced political ties to this power hungry Zanu poo

    • Chikanga Chikanga Munya and Mitchy Huber can you read English?, I said THINGS are getting ugly for Dube, it’s is your own opinion of him being ugly that you have attached to my comment.

    • Kkkkkkkkk veduwee 🙌🙌🙌

    • Kkkkkkkkk veduwee 🙌🙌🙌

    • Kkkkkkkkk veduwee 🙌🙌🙌

  • Vakuru vakashinga ava ndabvuma zvangu,

  • Kurema

  • Face yake yotyisa manje

    • ndiye murume wako

    • Uchazvara mwana akafanana naye seka ushatu wafa

    • usadare wena seka urema wafa ini zii hangu

    • Great fearless Col

    • Dube has a good heart and doesnt put any war paint on his face. If we remove all that make up from your face you will be a different story altogether. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, not the beholden.

    • Ndati anotyisa ! Not kushata imi ndimi makutotaura zvekushata kwake ndangendisitorinawo kuzviona😂😂😂😂😁

    • maromo acho kunge sure yehuku

  • Pamberi nemi comrade

  • Its not gud guys to mock some one on grounds of appearence…too bad

  • this Mugabe is a pain in the ass, is he a God? he keeps on firing people as if Zimbabwe belongs to him??

  • Zvakanzi vakuWildlife wani

  • Sorry commandant I salute you You have nothing to lose

  • Aguta nyemba manje

  • Never sacrifice princeples on the alta of expedience.once a colonel always a colenel.

  • He looks like the late Cde Enos Chikoore

  • That’s wat happens man..thats wat happens..

  • Zvichi Zvepolitcs here izvi? Bcz picture yababa ava mainyanyira.

  • RGM, a President who doesn’t forgive or forget, very vindictive to say the least. He wants everyone t…

  • KKKKKK Patrick usadaro

  • Mdara ndanga ndichivafarira bt right now vave kubvisa vanhu vanova ndivo vakabata party yeZanu. Haasi kuona kuti its being weakened by G40 which is full of anti-Zanu

  • Saka aichemei manje

  • Zororai henyu Bambo

  • chipembere pavamire adhala avo

  • Heishhh

  • For now, ZANU-PF is like a run away train with almost no brakes and the driver seems to have no idea how to regain control but clings onto controls and throws out anyone of his assistants through the window when ever they try to take over the controls. People inside the train are running out of ideas, they only have two options , either jump off or calmly wait for the stubborn driver to fall asleep and take over controls before it crushes ……But the driver Won’t let go, he seems to be suicidal and only God knows what follows next.

  • m dying to see this guy smilling m telling yu

  • Chikiti

    Go home, next one is Croc

  • The block has the powers to hire and fire, the constitution allows him to do that, remember you were hired when someone was fired. Thats how it goes

  • Iko kushata hako ,Ngwindi yani iyoyo kkkkkkk

  • Its only immature,childish fools with no political analytical brains who are mocking The Real Liberation War Hero Tshinga Dube based on his facial appearance..We are not here to debate childish things about being “handsome” or ”ugly..That attitude is done by spoilt,poorly raised high school teenagers.Anyway lets all wait and see how the ZANU Congress will come up with and let’s see what elections next year have in store…Because i also see major changes and surprises next year…lets not get excited about cabinet reshuffle.Zanu will win presidential votes but i see some zanu ministers being rejected and humiliated in Parliamentary seats and that will determine another new cabinet next year.

    • Akashata Akashata so what.

    • Tell them bro…ko ivo vakanaka vabuduseiko…panekuti vanhu vasimudzire nekutsigira vakashinga vanotaura chokwadi sezvachiri but someone can talk of ugly..zvine chii neZimbabwe wander why we are suffering because we don’t think at all….mandishamisa imi makanaka kwazvo…chivakai nyika nekunaka kwenyu ,zvamunenge mungori ngoko dzinongoziva kusunda ndove chete …Getaway

  • At least he stood up t e guy…not lk e other bunch f cowards. He z rich…no a prob fr him!

  • zvinodzingisa nhy

  • William (MASVINGO) Masvinu

  • You zanoids you all constructed the motorway of hire and fire so be it. Lekele inyembezi zamacrocodiles lapha

  • President had confidence in his inner self and not outer 👀 so kudos kuna RG havasarudze depending on how u look 👀

  • You can say tht again mudhara Tshinga

  • Zanu pple never learn. You will all be used and dumped like Durexs. Some were used to kill opponents during election times and ngozis are cursing their families while the smart Bob is living large.
    Shockingly we still still dumpheads of the new generation such as Chipanga buttlicking these same pple. Very stupid. I saw Chombo kneeling be4 the Dr woman. Thats pure insanity and buttlicking of an extend beyong manhood. A disgrace. Disgusting.

  • Paid the price my foot, now that your tenure of thieving is over. You, your predecessors, and successors are Mugabe’s whores to be used as and when necessary

  • Chokwadi hachiurayi

  • Alien looking crocodile apologist

  • Gad that is the ugliest mother I have ever seen ……….phew he should wear a street light above his head like Zumas shower rose……..

  • Dzimwe face kuita fanika mvuu kudai. Ummm

  • true he waz fired for that

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  • hey mr urgly makanyanya

  • Wamama foolish ugly idiot

  • But how can the minister wear a scary musk like that,

  • Run please

  • Nhema munodziwanzawo haaa

  • Go and compete with mr ugly u can win

  • What the Fuk is that? Is he real human ?? Good god that’s a mess

    • Does someone’s appearance matter most. Stop calling someone mess, this is not acceptable to insult the personhood of someone.

    • It’s very acceptable when the creature looks like a melted frog

    • No no that’s an insult to the one who created him if you believe in that. We were created in our uniqueness. Our uniqueness makes appreciate it each other. The moment you start to dig someone’s appearance it really shows the sign failure. Any good argument or whatever it is, it must not lead to insult somebody’s person hood.

    • Nobody created us. Wer a product of evolution. Not some make belief stupid idiot in the sky. This is all false, you have been lied to

  • He is stupid. Of cause I would fire him too. If you are very smart, think deep. If you are very wealthy and have greedy children, you never yell any of them about your will. The day you announce your will is the day you die. The beneficiary will be the one to plan your death or they kill each other as a way to monopolize will drafting. Obviously Mugabe took it into context that the man now plans for the numbering of his remaining days.

  • human or animal

  • in Zimbabwe guerilla put on suits and mistakenly given a ministerial people

  • Realist

    Le indoda sibili

  • Kearabiloe Nare Matsaudza

  • Tshinga ishortcut yatshinguruve kandi

  • Waiti wazvigona kutsigira vapanduki

  • #KARMA -What goes around Comes around! !!!!!!!!

  • Ububi ungathi yindlala ingen’ekhaya. Kkk

  • Ndezve ikoko

  • After all grapes are sour!!?? Get Away

  • You talking nonsense minister we never heard you

  • A blessing in disguise Colonel!!!

  • Sorry but wanga usingazivi maitiro a Mugabe here ?

  • James Bond
  • .

  • But why laugh and mock someone about things that he cannot change. Did we all choose our faces. Did he choose to be born like that. So unfortunate and uncalled for.

  • But why laugh and mock someone about things that he cannot change. Did we all choose our faces. Did he choose to be born like that. So unfortunate and uncalled for.

  • But why laugh and mock someone about things that he cannot change. Did we all choose our faces. Did he choose to be born like that. So unfortunate and uncalled for.

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